Anonymous · May 24, 2026
Serial Number 12285522 was reported as accurate.
| Manufacturer: | Elgin | ? |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | ? |
| Movement Serial Number: | 12285297 | ? |
| Grade: | 343 | ? |
| Variation: | Mixed | ? |
| Model: | 7 | ? |
| Class: | 122 | ? |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1906 | ? |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | ? |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 1 | ? |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 1,000 | ? |
| Variant Est. Production: | 1,000 (18S-M7-17J-ONL-U-MIXED) | ? |
| Size: | 18s | ? |
| Jewels: | 17j | ? |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | ? |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | ? |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Black | ? |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | ? |
| Plate: | Full Plate | ? |
| Barrel: | Going | ? |
| Train: | Quick | ? |
| Regulator: | Moseley | ? |
| Adjusted: | Yes | ? |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | ? |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | No | ? |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | ? |
| Movement Markings: | Overland [or "G.M. Wheeler"] [or "Elgin Natl. Watch Co.] [or "The Atlantic - N. Gamse - New York] Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 17 Jewels Adjusted | ? |
| Case: | Various | ? |
| Run ID: | 5389.343G1.18S2479.187M100.O1705.L1712.17J601 | ? |
| Data Research: |
1909 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.978 | ? |
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| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only: | 15 (1.50%) | ? |
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Research Note: #12285095: Reported as Private Label Marked “The Atlantic” for “N. Gamse New York.” [NAWCC]
#12285119: Verified as Private Label Marked “The Atlantic - N. Gamse. - New York - 17 Jewels - Adjusted - Safety Pinion.” [PWDB] #12285274: Verified as Marked “Elgin Nat’l. Watch Co. U.S.A. - 17 Jewels - Adjusted - Safety Pinion” with “A.N. Anderson Standard Time” dial. [watchesbyhourminsec] #12285282: Reported as Private Label for A.N. Anderson. (Verified Dial Marked “A.N. Anderson Standard Time”) [Barnebys] #12285297: Reported as Marked “Elgin Nat’l. Watch Co.” with “A.N. Anderson Dial” [IHC] #12285517: Verified as Marked “Overland - Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. - 17 Jewels - Adjusted - Safety Pinion.” [FB] #12285535: Verified as Marked “Overland - Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. - 17 Jewels - Adjusted - Safety Pinion.” [Milanuncios] #12285595 Verified as Marked "Overland - Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. - 17 Jewels - Adjusted - Safety Pinion.” [NAWCC] #12285608: Verified as Marked “G.M. Wheeler - Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. - 17 Jewels - Adjusted - Safety Pinion.” [SH] #12285630 Verified as Marked "G.M. Wheeler - Elgin, Ill. U.S.A." on barrel bridge. These movements each have a different damaskeening pattern. [NAWCC] #12285821: Strong statistical evidence of a surviving example. #12285974: Verified as Marked "Overland - Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. - 17 Jewels - Adjusted - Safety Pinion.” #12285982: Reported as surviving Grade 343 example [NAWCC]. Based on these observations of surviving examples, it is likely the first batch of movements [12285001-~12285200] were marked ”The Atlantic” and sold by N. Gamse. The next batch [~12285201-12285300] were sold to A.N. Anderson, marked “Elgin Nat’l. Watch Co. U.S.A.” and furnished with dials marked “A.N. Anderson Standard Time.” There is a notable gap between ~12285301-~12285500. However, statistical evidence supports that production continued through this block, but we currently lack explicit reports of surviving examples. The next batch [~12285501-~12285600] was marked “Overland - Elgin, Ill. U.S.A.” The next batch [~12285601-~12285650] were marked “G.M. Wheeler - Elgin, Ill. U.S.A.” These serial number splits are subject to change in the future as additional information is discovered. There is also strong statistical support of a surviving example at serial #12285821 and a reported “Grade 343” surviving example at #12285982. #12285974 has been verified as marked "Overland - Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. - 17 Jewels - Adjusted - Safety Pinion.” This suggests the last 100 movements may feature mixed markings. |
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Serial Number 12285522 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285315 was reported as inaccurate.
Serial Number 12285297 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285535 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285974 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285699 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285699 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285277 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285708 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285198 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285434 was reported as inaccurate.
Serial Number 12285340 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285554 was reported as accurate.
Serial Number 12285422 was reported as inaccurate.
Serial Number 12285554 was reported as inaccurate.