Bigbobhoss · September 18, 2021
Serial Number 1677844 was reported as accurate.
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Access Date: June 3, 2026
From the American Horology Archive:
Illinois Watch Co.
Grade: 186
Getty Model
| Manufacturer: | Illinois | ? |
| Manufacturer Location: | Springfield, Illinois | ? |
| Movement Serial Number: | 1677553 | ? |
| Grade: | 186 | ? |
| Model: | 4 | ? |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1903 | ? |
| Run Quantity: | 500 | ? |
| Grade/Model Run: | 9 of 21 | ? |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 2,930 | ? |
| Variant Est. Production: | 2,920 (16S-M4-17J) | ? |
| Size: | 16s | ? |
| Jewels: | 17j | ? |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby | ? |
| Jewel Setting: | Screw-Set | ? |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | ? |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | ? |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt | ? |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | ? |
| Plate: | 3/4 Bridge Plate | ? |
| Bridge Type: | 3-Finger | ? |
| Barrel: | Going | ? |
| Center Wheel Material: | Gold | ? |
| Regulator: | Micrometric | ? |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | ? |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | ? |
| Adjusted: | Yes | ? |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 4 | ? |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | ? |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | ? |
| Dial Feet Locations: | 24.5, 36.5, 55.5 | ? |
| Case Screw Locations: | 18.5, 52.5 | ? |
| Case: | Various | ? |
| Run ID: | 4919.186G26.16S1041.164M497.H2576.L4056.17J1021 | ? |
| Database Version: | v52.978 | ? |
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| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only: | 13 (2.60%) | ? |
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Total Known Population In Run 13/500
Percentage of Total Run 2.60%
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georged · December 15, 2020
Serial Number 1677578 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Plate changed from Bridge to 3/4 bridge
Anonymous · September 12, 2017
Serial Number 1677553 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Plate changed from Bridge to 3/4 bridge
Anonymous · March 22, 2017
Serial Number 1677552 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Plate changed from Bridge to 3/4 bridge
oilseed · February 27, 2017
Serial Number 1677671 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: According to 'Roy & Bills' Book (Amr Pocket Watches, Vol 2), The model 4 (17J & 23J) was NOT RR grade . Only the model 5 (17 & 23J) was RR grade. you can tell the difference between model 4 and model 5 by the 'setting lever' position.
Model 4, lever position was 23min. Model 5 lever position was 7.5min
the Model 4 was HUNTING and the Model 5 was OPEN FACE.
The 'ea' drawing you show is also not correct. it should show the 3 finger bridge type 'only'. ea462 (model 4) and ea464 (model 5).
the ea drawing you are showing is ea463 which is for the earlier Grades 171 through 177.
Model 4, lever position was 23min. Model 5 lever position was 7.5min
the Model 4 was HUNTING and the Model 5 was OPEN FACE.
The 'ea' drawing you show is also not correct. it should show the 3 finger bridge type 'only'. ea462 (model 4) and ea464 (model 5).
the ea drawing you are showing is ea463 which is for the earlier Grades 171 through 177.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. Since this range was manufacturered c.1903, it would still meet the requirements for service on most of the American railroads at the time, and thus, would be considered railroad grade until roughly 1906-1908. The factory diagram has been updated to display the bridge model.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Plate changed from 3/4 to 3/4 bridge
Anonymous · January 24, 2016
Serial Number 1677900 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Plate changed from 3/4 to 3/4 bridge