SethThomasFan · March 10, 2026
Serial Number 4525 was reported as inaccurate.
No further details were submitted with the report.
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Access Date: June 3, 2026
From the American Horology Archive:
Seth Thomas Watch Co.
Grade: 44
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"5863" could possibly indicate the grade of the watch and not the serial number of your movement. Serial numbers are usually more than a few digits.
"5863" could possibly indicate the grade of the watch and not the serial number of your movement. Serial numbers are usually more than a few digits.
Private Label(s) in Run:
What is a Private Label?
- Dan'l. Pratt's Son - Boston
- Trainmens Special - Chicago U.S.A.
- Century U.S.A.
- A. S. Bleyer - Central City, Neb.
- J. M. Heaney - Berlin Wis.
- Dan'l. Pratt's Son
- C. Liebenow & Son - Manitowoc, Wis.
- A.S. Bleyer - Central City, Neb.
What is a Private Label?
| Manufacturer: | Seth Thomas | ? |
| Manufacturer Location: | Thomaston, Connecticut | ? |
| Movement Serial Number: | 5863 | ? |
| Grade: | 44 | ? |
| Variation: | Type 3 | ? |
| Model: | 1 | ? |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1886 | ? |
| Run Quantity: | 4,800 | ? |
| Grade/Model Run: | 4 of 5 | ? |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 8,500 | ? |
| Variant Est. Production: | 7,000 (18S-M1-11J-OGL-U-TYPE 3) | ? |
| Size: | 18s | ? |
| Jewels: | 11j | ? |
| Jewel Setting: | Burnished Jewels | ? |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | ? |
| Movement Finish: | Gilt | ? |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | ? |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | ? |
| Balance Type: | Expansion | ? |
| Regulator: | Plain | ? |
| Hairspring: | Flat | ? |
| Adjusted: | No | ? |
| Railroad Grade: | No | ? |
| Movement Markings: | Seth Thomas Thomaston, Conn. Pat'd. Jan.13. & Sept.1. 85. | ? |
| Case: | Various | ? |
| Run ID: | 5.44G4.18S5.181M5.O5.L5.11J5 | ? |
| Data Research: | 1904 Seth Thomas Serial List | ? |
| Database Version: | v52.978 | ? |
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| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only: | 39 (0.81%) | ? |
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Research Note: #2281, #2727, #2766: Verified as marked "Patented" instead of "Pat'd" #6372: No Patent Markings
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Population Registry for This Run
Total Known Population In Run 39/4,800
Percentage of Total Run 0.81%
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Verification Reports for this Run
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SethThomasFan · March 10, 2026
Serial Number 4525 was reported as inaccurate.
No further details were submitted with the report.
SethThomasFan · August 14, 2025
Serial Number 4510 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Movement Markings:
SethThomasFan · August 14, 2025
Serial Number 4510 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: A. S. Bleyer
Central City, Neb.
Pat'd. Jan.13. & Sept.1. 85.
Central City, Neb.
Pat'd. Jan.13. & Sept.1. 85.
SethThomasFan · August 16, 2024
Serial Number 2374 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Movement Markings:
Seth Thomas
Thomaston, Conn.
Patented
Jan.13. & Sept.1. 85.
Seth Thomas
Thomaston, Conn.
Patented
Jan.13. & Sept.1. 85.
SethThomasFan · May 14, 2024
Serial Number 2374 was reported as accurate.
SethThomasFan · May 14, 2024
Serial Number 6305 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Movement Markings: Dan'l. Pratt's Son
Boston
Pat'd. Jan.13. & Sept.1. 85.
Boston
Pat'd. Jan.13. & Sept.1. 85.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The database has been updated accordingly.
Anonymous · March 15, 2024
Serial Number 4787 was reported as accurate.
SethThomasFan · August 19, 2023
Serial Number 4988 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 26, 2022
Serial Number 5436 was reported as accurate.
mlat2012 · August 31, 2021
Serial Number 3350 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 9, 2021
Serial Number 6218 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 9, 2021
Serial Number 6218 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 23, 2021
Serial Number 5836 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 12, 2021
Serial Number 5836 was reported as accurate.
mlat2012 · January 10, 2021
Serial Number 3350 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 27, 2020
Serial Number 4666 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Grade changed from 55 to 44
Anonymous · April 8, 2020
Serial Number 5573 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 8, 2020
Serial Number 5969 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 24, 2017
Serial Number 6296 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 9, 2017
Serial Number 4963 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Grade changed from 55 to 44
Anonymous · June 18, 2017
Serial Number 6574 was reported as accurate.
geoulri1 · May 16, 2017
Serial Number 6792 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 24, 2017
Serial Number 3924 was reported as inaccurate.
No further details were submitted with the report.
Anonymous · February 18, 2017
Serial Number 2372 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 9, 2017
Serial Number 3846 was reported as accurate.
indianbob · April 25, 2016
Serial Number 5498 was reported as accurate.
indianbob · April 25, 2016
Serial Number 2362 was reported as accurate.
indianbob · April 24, 2016
Serial Number 2372 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 24, 2016
Serial Number 2372 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 24, 2016
Serial Number 2372 was reported as accurate.
geoulri1 · April 21, 2016
Serial Number 6298 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 5, 2016
Serial Number 4826 was reported as inaccurate.
No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Grade changed from 55 to 44
Anonymous · December 6, 2015
Serial Number 5660 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 30, 2015
Serial Number 6071 was reported as accurate.
dunlapjm · October 29, 2015
Serial Number 2766 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 17, 2015
Serial Number 3353 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 17, 2015
Serial Number 3533 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 15, 2015
Serial Number 4744 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Grade changed from 55 to 44
Anonymous · January 5, 2015
Serial Number 4229 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Grade changed from 55 to 44
Anonymous · January 5, 2015
Serial Number 4229 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
- Grade changed from 55 to 44